'60s Mercedes Coupé or Cabriolet ?
Whilst I'd love a 280SE 3.5 convertible, they're well out of my price range.
So the question is whether to look for the hardtop Coupé version of the V8, or the Cabrio version of the 6 cyl, e.g. 220SE ? Or maybe just the Coupé version of the 6 cyl ?
Any thoughts as to spares prices, running costs, anticipated future values, etc ?
Alternatives might be XK150dhc or TD/TE/TF 21 convertible.
Any thoughts as to [...] anticipated future values, etc ?
At some stage over the next few years I predict that the current, unsustainable price bubble is going to burst. Hopefully at that point the investors who've pushed prices beyond the means of true enthusiasts will get their fingers seriously burnt. Rant over...
Much as the V8 would be nice, I think this car's all about roof-down motoring - it would have to be the cab!
A V8 Cabriolet would be lovely wouldn't it, but it depends what you want to use it for. I’d
say, if you have the choice, go for the automatic 3.5 Coupe with the sunroof and
A/C (speaking as a totally unbiased 3.5 Coupe owner!). If you want to drive it
then it’s such a nice engine, very free revving and will allow really quite quick
progress on A roads and fast cruising on the motorway. You really can take it
anywhere, driving to the South of France is a pleasure. It's a practical
GT car and with the windows down and the sunroof open you get all the air you
want. Oh and it’s better looking…
The 2.2, particularly with a column shift, is quite a sedate car; not really in same
league for long distances or safe overtaking. But it is still a fabulous
looking car with all the style and about half the price.
My view is that, after you are sitting in it, most cars are made by a great engine and a great engine makes a car so much more satisfying. V8 cars are rare only 48 Cabs and 245 Coupes were made in RHD so with that kind of scarcity there will always be more buyers than sellers. I can’t see
there’s any risk the price will go down anytime soon.
Opinions divided, of course ! Thanks for the responses, everyone, particularly Paul as an owner.
Appreciate that the 220s would be sedate but then still better than many classics - 'Original' book quotes 0-100 kph in 12.8 with 170 kph max, as opposed to 9 secs & 210 kph for the V8 (both manual, but autos very little different) so yes, the V8 does sound more my sort of car as well ! Fuel cons. quoted at 10.7 and 13 litres per 100 kms respectively, which is 26 & 22 mpg.
And I wonder how quick the hood is to erect and fold back ? Bit spoilt at the moment with a power hood '68 Mustang; quite a nice car but those Mercs are just so classy !
You may be right, Coventry Climax, but this time the market seems to be enthusiast driven. 20 or so years ago a classic dealer friend was selling Ferraris on the phone and putting them straight into storage for the new owners, who weren't even interested in seeing them.
I would just add that all models are great classics, but your budget must decide. Certainly the V8 will be a better car than a six, same as a convertible will always cost more than a coupe, but given the price differences the choices are to some degree already decided.
Personally, if the V8 convertible is out of reach and the choice were between a V8 Coupe or a 6 cylinder ragtop I would go for the Coupe. A great driver's car, but then for my taste I do not think the open car is the better anyway. On the other hand, if the car is mainly to be used for city driving and not long distance highway runs, then the six will do the job just fine.
Probably the only other caveat is to make sure the model within your budget is as complete and solid as can be, do not be tempted by one with a bit of rust, or worse, missing any trim parts, as both scenarios will see you in the poor house pretty quick.
Let us know which way you jump, and photos of any future buys will guarantee plenty of envy from this quarter.
Thanks,Chris, I think I'm leaning towards the V8 Coupé too.
I see it has electric rear windows, an alternator and also D Jetronic injection, which is probably something most garages could cope with, as opposed to the mechanical injection which is probably MB dealer or specialist territory nowadays.
Had a look at a manaul 220SEb coupé, quite a nice car - enormous boot !
Grabbed a 'Classic Mercedes' magazine to read on a train journey today, didn't realise it was issue no. 1 but it's really quite interesting, with a feature on the V8 coupes amongst other things. There's a couple of 'POA' coupés for sale, so I might steel myself and ring up about them.
If you're down south I would ring Roger Edwards Motors or Robert Schmitt and see if they have any leads on cars, most of them seem to pass through their hands at some point.
I've saw the white 3.5 in Roger Edwards workshop a few months ago (for sale through Silver Arrows) it looked fabulous.