All Triumphs are rubbish.

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GBt wrote:

an acorn

and eventually,

leaves

Oh no, not that old 'Mungo and Herald' chestnut again?

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So what condition is the TR6 in, GAv?

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Ok I know I said I wasn't going to come back on here, but something in this Triumph/BL story made me dig out some stuff from the seventies that was earmarked for the next swapmeet, or failing that, eBay.

But then I thought, hang on, this all looks a bit familiar, a lot of these are represented in the C&SC fleet.

So here's the pitch.

I have a load of plastic moulded and coloured plaques I guess you call them, sort of a relief pattern that is coloured in. They would have been given to dealers for what? Display? Or to sell on? My guess is a bit of decoration for Unipart dealers in 1976/77. They have on the back the following;

MADE IN ENGLAND BY T.G.S. (LEICESTER) LTD. 48 KENILWORTH DRIVE, OADBY, LEICESTER U.K.and a telephone number. Then it has the legend; MADE EXCLUSIVELY FOR UNIPART, LEYLAND CARS LTD. COWLEY, OXFORD ENGLAND.

Each one measures 28.5cm by 13.5cm, (see photo with C&SC mag' for scale) and has a fold out piece on the back that makes it stand up, like a photo frame. Just the thing for an owner of such a vehicle you might think.

Well here's the funny bit; some of the C&SC staff may be interested.

There is a 1976 Jaguar XJS like the one Martin B has just parted with, but also a '77 Range Rover, like the one he hopes to replace it with. Then there is a Triumph Stag dated 1970 like the one James was tempted by, well this piece of plastic on your desk might compensate. Not sure what year Gaynor's E-Type is but this '61 roadster in yellow and on wires is dated '61. I know Martin P. has recently parted with his Landie, and it was a SWB S11, but the nearest thing here is a LWB '77, any good? Then there is a '73 MGB GT with shiny bumpers, not quite the rubber bumper one Alastair lost and wants back, but close. As a long shot for Graeme there is one of an XK120, but alas no 150. There are others too, Austin Seven, Bullnose Morris, TR7, MGA, Rover SD1 etc, but these will fit in with my stock anyway.

Well, like I said, these are going to the next swapmeet anyway, and with a ten dollar price on each. but as the similarities to the fleet struck me as too good to pass up, I thought I would offer them to the C&SC staff first.

If any, or all of the suspects named above are interested, we can do a deal, AU$10 each and the more they want, the cheaper (pro rata) the postage will be, they are not heavy, but it still gets cheaper for more. You lot could get some neat desk ornaments and I get my next year's subsciption paid for.

Any takers? Let me know, and I'll get on the email with details.

Chris M.

 

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Chris Martin wrote:

Ok I know I said I wasn't going to come back on here, but something in this Triumph/BL story made me dig out some stuff from the seventies that was earmarked for the next swapmeet, or failing that, eBay.

But then I thought, hang on, this all looks a bit familiar, a lot of these are represented in the C&SC fleet.

So here's the pitch.

I have a load of plastic moulded and coloured plaques I guess you call them, sort of a relief pattern that is coloured in. They would have been given to dealers for what? Display? Or to sell on? My guess is a bit of decoration for Unipart dealers in 1976/77. They have on the back the following;

MADE IN ENGLAND BY T.G.S. (LEICESTER) LTD. 48 KENILWORTH DRIVE, OADBY, LEICESTER U.K.and a telephone number. Then it has the legend; MADE EXCLUSIVELY FOR UNIPART, LEYLAND CARS LTD. COWLEY, OXFORD ENGLAND.

Each one measures 28.5cm by 13.5cm, (see photo with C&SC mag' for scale) and has a fold out piece on the back that makes it stand up, like a photo frame. Just the thing for an owner of such a vehicle you might think.

Well here's the funny bit; some of the C&SC staff may be interested.

There is a 1976 Jaguar XJS like the one Martin B has just parted with, but also a '77 Range Rover, like the one he hopes to replace it with. Then there is a Triumph Stag dated 1970 like the one James was tempted by, well this piece of plastic on your desk might compensate. Not sure what year Gaynor's E-Type is but this '61 roadster in yellow and on wires is dated '61. I know Martin P. has recently parted with his Landie, and it was a SWB S11, but the nearest thing here is a LWB '77, any good? Then there is a '73 MGB GT with shiny bumpers, not quite the rubber bumper one Alastair lost and wants back, but close. As a long shot for Graeme there is one of an XK120, but alas no 150. There are others too, Austin Seven, Bullnose Morris, TR7, MGA, Rover SD1 etc, but these will fit in with my stock anyway.

Well, like I said, these are going to the next swapmeet anyway, and with a ten dollar price on each. but as the similarities to the fleet struck me as too good to pass up, I thought I would offer them to the C&SC staff first.

If any, or all of the suspects named above are interested, we can do a deal, AU$10 each and the more they want, the cheaper (pro rata) the postage will be, they are not heavy, but it still gets cheaper for more. You lot could get some neat desk ornaments and I get my next year's subsciption paid for.

Any takers? Let me know, and I'll get on the email with details.

Chris M.

Please forgive me for asking: Shouldn't you be looking at selling these on the classified section? It was only a few days ago you posted a 'spam' concern to James.

This all strikes me as being slightly hypocritical and a slight lack of integrity.

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plastic penguin wrote:

Please forgive me for asking: Shouldn't you be looking at selling these on the classified section? It was only a few days ago you posted a 'spam' concern to James.

This all strikes me as being slightly hypocritical and a slight lack of integrity.

Oh dearie me. I seem to be lacking integrity too now. I have listed the same already in the classified and thought the tacky '70s BL plastic look of these might fit in nicely with the previous thread, but if you really want to claim the moral high ground it's all yours mate.

Hardly spam, I was asking if the C&SC staff might find them a bit if fun, that is hardly the same as Chinese watches and handbags but if you find it as offensive, then yes, I plead guilty.

Now if you really want to assume the role of forum police, I'll just quietly go back where I came from.

G'night.

Chris M.

 

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Chris Martin wrote:

plastic penguin wrote:

Please forgive me for asking: Shouldn't you be looking at selling these on the classified section? It was only a few days ago you posted a 'spam' concern to James.

This all strikes me as being slightly hypocritical and a slight lack of integrity.

Oh dearie me. I seem to be lacking integrity too now. I have listed the same already in the classified and thought the tacky '70s BL plastic look of these might fit in nicely with the previous thread, but if you really want to claim the moral high ground it's all yours mate.

Hardly spam, I was asking if the C&SC staff might find them a bit if fun, that is hardly the same as Chinese watches and handbags but if you find it as offensive, then yes, I plead guilty.

Now if you really want to assume the role of forum police, I'll just quietly go back where I came from.

G'night.

Chris M.

Oh dearie [sic] me indeed. Before accusing anyone of moral high ground or oneupmanship, then please think back to your verbal bombardment of GBt. I won't police this forum because I've no right. However, I do have a right to complain if anyone tries to derail a thread or post... and it's unjustified. I won't come here to exchange mud-slinging with anyone.

If you really do want to get rid of your plastic jobbies then maybe try and email James james.elliott@haymarket.com, or take'em to your local charity shop.

Please draw a line. I will and have.

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.Oh dearie [sic] me indeed. Before accusing anyone of moral high ground or oneupmanship, then please think back to your verbal bombardment of GBt. I won't police this forum because I've no right. However, I do have a right to complain if anyone tries to derail a thread or post... and it's unjustified. I won't come here to exchange mud-slinging with anyone.

If you really do want to get rid of your plastic jobbies then maybe try and email James james.elliott@haymarket.com, or take'em to your local charity shop.

Please draw a line. I will and have.

Here we go again?

Ok in reply to the above points in simple English, who said anything about oneupmanship? When was I guilty of 'verbal bombardment of GBt'? No, you do not have the right to police this forum, neither do I, and yes you do have the right to complain, but be aware nobody is listening.

And if you think my little pictures of some harmless plastic BL junk from the seventies does not belong in a thread about Triumph rubbish, you should see some of what has been posted on here before. And this complaint from someone who likes to post links from other forums (What Stereo or similar) which are of no relevance at all other than as a justification for your own thought processes. Sure, I checked it out, and apart from the fact that I would not know an Arcam if it jumped up and bit me on the bum, I fail to see why it is included on this thread.

Then GBt shares his grief at the loss of a friend, who just happened to own a Triumph, and that is ok by you too. And I am not having a go at GBt at all here, the loss of a good friend is a personal tragedy that we all have to go through, but again you don't consider that too tangential, yet somehow my post is seen as an 'unjustified' attempt to 'derail' your thread? Eh? Maybe if I had added photos of the TR7 and Dolomite plaques too that would have increased the percentage of rubbish Triumphs to an acceptable level?

As I said, it was just a piece of harmless fun, maybe all the more needed to lighten the mood of the previous two days posts, but as it seems to have got you upset I did try to remove it, though for some reason the edit facility is no longer displayed.

(Does anyone know how that works? Is it not available after 24 hours? Strange, because I know GBt has always been able to get back to edit old posts, maybe he can tell me how it's done? Any tips Gav?).

And of course I have already emailed James,(along with a few others named) as I know he rarely makes an appearance on here these days and I suspect the others do not even bother at all. In fact if you read my post in its entirety, you will see I said if anyone is interested I will email postage details etc. Boring stuff like that surely would not need to be on here, but the post was intended as a general 'Hi' and 'here's the pictures' to any and all who may be interested, but I see no reason for it to offend those that aren't.

But the absolute best bit, and I have to admire the way you slipped it in there, was the phrase 'I won't come here to exchange mud-slinging with anyone' in a post that is otherwise nothing but implied mud-slinging. Still, we have seen enough of this kind of banter on here before to know that there is only one way this is heading, and that is into another 'he said, she said' type slanging match, the likes of which serves no purpose except to bore the a*se off everyone (except maybe the protagonists)..

One other point. This forum does not usually need to adhere to too strict a rule system, or else there would probably be nobody on here. so cut some slack. Dougal has already contributed elsewhere on here about his thoughts on old Triumphs with big fat tyres etc, but only as a thin excuse to insert yet another plug for his tyre business which he does now and then, and even then less often than the Chinese handbag/watch/shoe type spam so prevalent, but does anyone cry 'Spam'?  No, and no need to, he does not overstep the line and his comments at least usually add something useful to the post. As a previous career in Formula One R&D involved a lot of static tyre testing I can add that he is right that most cars should work best with the tyres they were designed for, but that's another thread for another day.

So is it the prospect of me making a profit out of this that bothers you? Because if that is all it is, I can well afford my own subscription renewal thanks, as that was only meant to be joke, and am quite happy to contribute any gains to a local cancer care charity, details of which can be forwarded to any buyers.

I repeat, if anyone knows how to, I will remove my post from your thread, but if not, at least you will be on page seven soon and not have to look at it.

So, you drew a line.......now I draw a line under yours.

Chris M.

 

 

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  HEY !! TROLLS , Can we get back to discussing rubbish cars again ,PLEASE?xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxI managed to get my hands on one of the earliest Triumph TR8 -V8 to arrive in the USA ( see chassis number) Oh ! What a disaster that turned out to be, what ever happened to all the engineers back at the factory ? we recieved a half built ,collection of mistakes and compromises and had to proceed with completing  the R&D to make the car safe to drive. do you want to hear more ?

RolyMo

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rolymo35 wrote:

  HEY !! TROLLS , Can we get back to discussing rubbish cars again ,PLEASE?xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxI managed to get my hands on one of the earliest Triumph TR8 -V8 to arrive in the USA ( see chassis number) Oh ! What a disaster that turned out to be, what ever happened to all the engineers back at the factory ? we recieved a half built ,collection of mistakes and compromises and had to proceed with completing  the R&D to make the car safe to drive. do you want to hear more ?

Not unless there's some earth-shattering info. The TR7 & 8 were definitely my least favourite Triumph. Suffice to say, I'd rather have my toes stapled to the ceiling than own a TR7 or 8.

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plastic penguin wrote:

Not unless there's some earth-shattering info. The TR7 & 8 were definitely my least favourite Triumph. Suffice to say, I'd rather have my toes stapled to the ceiling than own a TR7 or 8.

Strange fellow! While I agree the TR7 was an all time low for both Triumph, and car nuts in general, and I too would rather not have to drive one around, I have to say having one's toes stapled to the ceiling throws up a lot of other problems. Like how to change your socks, or even if eating a peanut butter sandwich may just be possible, a pint of beer would be very messy. No, I'll take the TR7 and hope nobody sees me in it.