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I was thinking redranch was more of a dealer than a collector and to get through that number of cars would have required a quick turnover. I recently built a new double garage out the back which as well as a two-car-length car-port on the side of the house and room for two more further up the drive gives me a bit of parking space, but even then if I have had sometimes more than four cars here the neighbours think I am in business. As most of his are photographed in different locations, and the R-R one at least we know is not his anyway, I guess we can assume these are all over a long period of time.

Or maybe redranch can tell us more, like what was he up to, when, where and why. A fascinating collecton. I've been through a fair few (I can't remember all of them) but I doubt I could beat that list!

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Hi Chris, yes many friends thought I should have been a dealer but it was just a hobby. I didn't pass my test unitl I moved to London and that's when I started buying a few cars, the collection of cars I've listed is roughly over a 28 year period. Not all made it back to the UK, at one point I had 4 or 5 in the US (in different States as well). What makes you assume the RR wasn't mine...all those car I listed I owned at some stage...in fact I did a trade on it for the Yellow Thunderbird and went halfs with a dealer, he repainted it and it was sold...so I didn't own it for that long but I did enjoy the thick rugs when I was driving it.

I'm down to 4 cars at the moment, the 1950 Mercury (yellow) in Los Angeles...currently being restored, the 1965 Pontiac Bonneville (blue), in Ohio...not being restored, just getting roadworthy as it's sat for a few year (a 2 owner car). In the UK I have the 1971 Jaguar E-Type V12, in storage until I get around to finishing the restoration and finally a 1970 Volvo Amazon that's an everyday car.

Eversthing else on the list has at some point been sold (inclusing a couple of cars I've bought back and kept for a little while longer before selling them on again).

The cars that V-8 Woodie liked...the 50 Mercury was found in the UK, I had that car for a couple of years before I moved to Vancouver...so it was sold to a guy in Belgium who set about chopping the top off as soon as it was over there...shame as it was a nice original car.

The 1953 Pontiac was bought in Oklahoma and shipped to the UK in the early 90's, but I moved to California for a few years so it was sold

I didn't own the Buick that long, in fact almost as soon as it arrived in the UK a friend fell in love with the car and I sold it to her...I'd been on a roadtrip in the US about 6 months before and bought 5 cars and left a deposit on a truck...so I din't really need the Buick.

I bought the 64 Galaxie from a guy in Arkansas and as I wanted some Torq Thurst D's on the car I found a place that would fit them just around the corner from him, so he had them fitted and dropped the car off at the dock for me. It was shipped to the UK and sold to someone that wanted to race it...then he found out he actually needed a 63 car not a 64 car...so I found a 63 car which he then bought as well.

The red 66 Charger was only bought because I missed driving my yellow one around, I'd sold it a few years before. I was over in Tuscon and scanning the local ads when I saw this car for sale. I shipped it over to the UK and another friend bought it off me.

The yellow charger was bought originally on a roadtrip in the US, shipped to the UK where I had it for a few years. I sold it the same time as the Pontiac when I moved to the US...fast forward about 7 or 8 years and I was having a spring clean, I came across my old address book with the name of the guy I sold the car too...I called him up on the off chance he might still have the car...he did, and it was for sale.
Needless to say I bought it back, in all that time he'd only driven it around the block once or twice, his wife didn't like the colour...in fact it was still in my name! The car was featured in an edition of C&SC around 93 (had a light blue mini on the cover)...it was a  'My Classic and I' story.

Over the years I bought and shipped and sold many cars, I've sold cars for friends when they can't sell them, I've found specific cars in friends or friends of friends...so maybe I should have been a dealer...but for me it's just a hobby...I just happened to collect large chunks of iron

After all these cars I've owned over the years...I don't have a car over Switzerland where I live at the moment.

Cheers

Peter

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Sorry Chris, I missed the earlier post...in answer to your question, no I'm, not Larry, but that might have been the guy that used to work on my Firebird in South West London.

A few of the cars were barn finds..but I admit I did go slightly off topic with the list and photos...sorry about that.

 

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...what's wrong with having too many Amazons, they are a great classic car to drive. I never mentioned anything about selling them on quickly...I liked the 123GT, and besides we are talking of owning those cars over a 28 year period...

Yes, I was aware the RR had a similar number to the press cars of the day and no it wasn't a press release photo, I took the photo down in Kent about 15 years ago.

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redranch wrote:

...what's wrong with having too many Amazons, they are a great classic car to drive. I never mentioned anything about selling them on quickly...I liked the 123GT, and besides we are talking of owning those cars over a 28 year period...

Yes, I was aware the RR had a similar number to the press cars of the day and no it wasn't a press release photo, I took the photo down in Kent about 15 years ago.

Peter

 

Great story there.I have turned over a lot of different cars over the last forty years I have been driving, but can't get close to that lot. From the days when an old Ford Consul or A35 could be bought for a fiver and then dumped when something went wrong, through to the 'flash' years of sports cars, lots of Americans as well as the odd 'good deal'. Then in later years come the sensible cars (ha ha) and there are still the odd ones that find me when I wasn't even looking for one.

I wasn't serious about Larry either, it is just a coincidence that you too had a '69 Firebird in grey primer, I'll post the story of his on here when I can find the photos.

You have had a fair mix of the stateside iron, and some real gems. Apart from the Mustang and Thunderbirds I had years ago, and the Loewy Studebakers, most of my favourite designs all seem to come from the Harly Earl and Bill Mitchell years of GM products, es[acially the Pontiacs and Buicks from post-war to mid-sixties.

Just kidding about the Amazons, but one sometimes wonders when someone says "a certain type of car is great, I've had loads of them", if they are that good, why do you keep selling them only to replace it again later, but I have been a bit like that with Mercedes W123 models over the last twenty-odd years and I am going to check out a clean '85 280E over the weekend as my last one was written off in a flood a few months back and I have had to use the very thirsty 450SLC as a daily driver.

As for the Camargue, when I first saw the photo, I thought it was 1800 TU which is the registration used by R-R on their press demonstrators, but now I see on zooming in that it was 1505 TU so apologies there. It's a bit cheeky to do so but there are many who post photos that aren't their own, just something they downloaded elsewhere, and I fully expect to see some of mine or Nunos 'borrowed' and posted on other sites one day. So how long did you keep the Camargue? Much as I always liked T-Birds, I have to say the Camargue has long been a favourite and one still on my wants list, and they often seem to be advertised for a lot less than the more obvious Corniche.

More photos wanted!

Chris M.

 

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Redranch,

Impressive!!

Thank for sharing.

nuno granja

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redranch wrote:

Sorry Chris, I missed the earlier post...in answer to your question, no I'm, not Larry, but that might have been the guy that used to work on my Firebird in South West London.

A few of the cars were barn finds..but I admit I did go slightly off topic with the list and photos...sorry about that.

 

Peter

Larry was from around the Southgate area, but here's the story of his Firebird just to justify another photo of one in primer. Sorry about the picture quality, these were scanned from cheap prints from an old Instamatic which was all I had back in '77. The car is a '69 Firebird Formula 400 convertible. He bought it fairly cheap I think from someone in Chelsea, who had lost his licence after getting drunk and crashing into parked cars on both sides of the street.

Minor damage to both front 'guards and one headlight bezel. Off to American Cars Ltd of West Drayton where there was a good front right guard and that was in the days when you had to climb on top of a pile of greasy wet cars to unbolt parts yourself - no health and safety rules then!

Easy bolt on job.

Anyway, back over to Clive's place for a bit of bashing and filling on the other side, then a bit of primer while we wrok out what to do next. Oh and this photo was taken at Blackbushe during a drag meet when a few of us went off to a spare runway to have a blast ourselves.

More grey primer all over. Note the turquoise fibreglass invalid car parked behind - made by AC - but no Cobra!

We finally finished it off by blowing a bit of gold around the edges of the panels, applying some striping tape over that and covering with a Vauxhall metallic blue that was close to the original colour.

Wonder what happened to TGN41M

Chris M.

 

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This barn find 66 Q series 428 FE Big Block "Thunderjet" powered Ford Hard Top did in fact get restored

Further to Gavin's photo of the 428 T-Bird and my story above about Larry's Firebird, here is the '66 T-Bird Landau he replaced it with, which also had the 428 option. Very clean and straight, it also had an immaculate red interior, anyone recognise where this went?

Chris M.

 

 

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enough of my old collection...I thought I'd post a few back on topic of barn finds, although technically they were found outside a barn!

A selection of TR's and a couple of MG's too

The remains of what used to be a Plymouth Coupe

A 49 or 50 Ford 'Shoe Box' convertible

 

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redranch wrote:

The cars that V-8 Woodie liked...the 50 Mercury was found in the UK, I had that car for a couple of years before I moved to Vancouver...so it was sold to a guy in Belgium who set about chopping the top off as soon as it was over there...shame as it was a nice original car.

After all these cars I've owned over the years...I don't have a car over Switzerland where I live at the moment.

Cheers

Peter

Hi redranch, that's a very interesting story, in addition, you also remember where all your cars were bought and sold and where they eventually ended up. Great stuff!

You don't have a car in Switzerland at the moment?  out of interest, what's the American car scene like over there?