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I would say probably very small...maybe I'm wrong and would love to hear otherwise from anyone living here. There might be more in the German part than in the French or Italian part of the country. I've only seen a handful of cars in my time over here, but there are more in the summer when there are shows on.

Maybe I'll have to bring the 65 Bonneville over here!

Peter

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I would say probably very small...maybe I'm wrong and would love to hear otherwise from anyone living here. There might be more in the German part than in the French or Italian part of the country. I've only seen a handful of cars in my time over here, but there are more in the summer when there are shows on.

Maybe I'll have to bring the 65 Bonneville over here!

Peter

By amazing coincidence Nuno just posted elsewhere some photos of various classics in Europe which included an early fifties Cadillac on Swiss plates. On the bootlid of the Caddy is a decal which reads 'Oldstyle.ch' and sure enough a Google search led to a website of the same name which appears to a Swiss based old car club.

http://oldstyle.ch/

There is a forum, but my German is not up to reading that, and there is a gallery of photos which seem to indicate the club leans toward mostly American classics, but it appears that was last updated in 2008 so I do not know how active they are.

Maybe redranch can investigate further?

Chris M.

 

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Three years ago, me and my wife went to a lunch with people she knew when working at Brussels. The lunch was in a country home somehere in Portugal and we went in my Audi Coupé.

When one the owners of the house see my car, we start to talk to about  classics and he says to me, he had inherited from his father who passad away a few years ago, a bunch of cars stored are in 3 farm warehouses on the area.

After the lunch we left my wife and friends remembering the golden days they spend at Brussles and we went to see the cars.

The cars that have been restored or in good original condition are in  the first and second warehouses. When I say restored, is not by actual standars, but the aproximative aproach of the portuguese collectors who starto to restore cars about 30 years ago...

The first and second warehouses...

A Peugeot 403 Cabrio, "Colombo" style..

German steel, 2 air cooled VWs (the type Cabrio is fake)....

Borgward and Opel Coupés, one Mercedes 300 "Adenauer" and three 190SL..

 

Italian steel, one Alfa and a few Fiats...

 

FORDS...

 

Some Us Cars...

 

 

British steel, Midget, Jaguar, Sumbean and Arsmtrong

 

and some french steel, A SIMCA Sport, two tractions avant (as in the VW Type 1 the cabrio is also a fake one) and Renault

There are two recent memories In this two first warehouses, the last car of the original owner...

...and the first car of the actual owner...

 

Then the third warehouse, with the cars that due to the bad condition or lack of papers, are only for spares, 

A Packard...

 

Lancia...

 

Peugeot..

 

Volvo...

 

An very early Karmann Ghia...

 

 

Fiat...

 

Mercedes...

 

Rover...

Jaguar..

 

Standart Vanguard...

 

Austin...

 

Renault..

An american car...

and  Studbaker truck, from an era when the phone numbers have only 3 digit...

(hope my notes are correctand the names of all cars are those i indicate)

I d'ont know waht apen to the cars but the owner feelings at that time  time are splited  between  sell part of them to finance the restoration of a few ones, or keep them even if he know that will never put all of them back on the road 

 

 

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Great story Nuno, that is the champion  'Barn Find' so far!

We all dream of finding such treasure.

If they were mine, I would sell some to pay for restoring the rest, but each to his own. By the way the unidentified American car is a Plymouth Barracuda of about '67 or '68. Do you keep in touch with the owners? It would be interesting to learn their fate.

Chris M.

 

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Thank Yoy Chris, for the comment and for the tip..

Your sugestion will be the wise option. but I have no further contacts with the owner. He is the brother of the wife of guy who used to work in the same office with my wife, so we did not  socialize so often . If i have other infos about the destiny of those cars i will report.

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This site may better explain why there are so many unrestored barn finds in Portugal, and why even an eighties Renault 5 or Ford Transit still on the road is worthy of a few photos.

Got to;

http://rust-in-portugal.blogspot.com

 

Then click the list of makes on the right side for more photos.

Chris M.

 

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Fresh catch

Last week i passed at the workshop of the guy who paint my cars in the Oporto area to fix a minor default on my VW Scirocco drivers door,. In a  cornder was a recent arrived barn find. A Citroen Traction I believe from the first series in very good original condition (or a very old second paintjob). It was recentely discovered with no aparentt rust or roten areas and the interiors are in good condition but the engine is seized due to the long  imobilization. Both engine and gearbox are out for rebuild...

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Fresh catch,

Some classics melting down with the ground in a house with a large backyard, at 60 km  from Lisbon on the side of the EN1 (nacional road number one).

As is very commun in Portugal the onwers of such places have no ideia about what they have and when they start to see a lot of people stop by to ask if the cars are for sale, they think they have gold at the backyard and put high prices on the merchandise. Most of the times they have only regular old cars, some are classics but usually with low market values. They insist on high prices and after some years they have only a bunch of rusty wrecked bodies. Just an example, the VW Type 4 411 coupe is in this location at least for 15 years, 15 winters and 15 summers sitting on the grass under a open sky.  During those years lot of  VW aircolled enthusiasts try to buy it, but come back  with empty hands as the prices are stratospheric.

With the new environnental laws this kind of places are vanishing on fast mode and is a pity to see such cars melting down.

Lets start the tour, a view...

An Opel truck, a Mini van, a Citroen DS, 2 Peugeots 404 and a NSU Prinz 4. On the right at the corner of the house a Ford Granada Mk1 Coupé is vanishing into the ground...

 

Usually they dont make  live from this business and during long periods we only find there such fellas...

 

A view from the other side...

 

Some interisting vehicles among the old bangers...

In front of a Morris Marina, the VW Type 4 411 Coupe, very rare were even if not a valuable car...

 

Two VW Type 3 Fastback, a series 1...

... and a series 2, close to a two door Mk2 Cortina, a Transit Mk1 and the remains of a beetle

 

A Landcrab...

 

Some commercial vehicles too, a pair of interisting Hanomags, a panelvan...

... and a mini truck...

... and a more commun ones...

A Mk1 Ford Capri is under cover, at the side of the red Fiat...

A late Cortina station wagon...

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Fresh catch,

Few meters ahead on the same road, spotted on the same day and tryp, this Commer Diesel truck abandoned on the road side.

I appreciate this Commer classic lines. There are a common sight in their time, but now maybe no one left. In Portugal truck collectors are very rare, so the destiny of such veihicules is no good.

 

A few kilometers ahead a Jeep on the warehouse of a sand  merchant, it looks like an unfinished/abandoned project...

On the other side of the road the remains of a VW Type 1/Beetle project. Is a very commun situation here, some newbie enthusiast buy a classic, thinking restoring it  in a  cheap way on a DIY basis. After some time they face the reality and realise they have no skills and means to finish it. Now what once was a good basis for restauration is lost forvever. It's apenning again and again.

 

And in the same area, in a truck scrapyard, a car that i never spot in a portuguese scrapyard, a Porsche 928...

 

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Discovered somehere in Cabo Verde Island (2010)...

 

 

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