Comments about the latest C&SC

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Chris Martin
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Red Dwarf wrote:

Well, it's 19th February today and no C&SC arrived here yet!  

VERY dissapointing.  For a while (after a lot of complaint) delivery times improved to France, but it seems it's back to going via South America or something!    As post from the UK to here takes no more than 4 days from any of our freinds, I fail to see why C&SC takes two weeks! 

I'll be only too keen to discuss the mag, when and if it arrives! 

It may be time for a serious survey of international subscribers to find out what service everyone is getting.  I have previously made my own complaints on here, but it seems it could be more widespread.  For my part, the delivery times only went crazy about a year ago, and this may have coincided with Haymarket switching to a new courier delivery firm.  Judging by the mix of countries named on various postage labels it is clear they do not use the most direct route, (presumably the cheapest instead?) in which case it is hardly surprising that France and Luxembourg also get inconvenienced - it seems your magazine is no longer, as you may have thought, just coming across the channel from nearby UK.

At least it gets to you in the end though.  Consider ourselves lucky compared to subscribers to US based periodicals that are sent by so called 'Media Mail'.  Apparently this supposed to be a cheaper alternative for mailing printed matter, but is known throughout the USPS as junk mail and is ignored.  To get around this, one American magaizne I get sent - Hemmings Classic Car - is bulk mailed to Australia and then a local distribution forwards it on, which works very well, and their rates are not expensive.  That may be a suitable fix where there is sufficient demand and over a relatively long shipping distance, but that should not be necessary between UK and France should it?

Any other international readers on here care to comment? 

Chris M.

 

Mario Laguna
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March issue eventually hit Luxembourg this morning, an entire week later than in 2012. Or shall I say during the previous years, when we got it the first Wednesday after the first Thursday of the month. Now it seems C&SC is distributed in Luxembourg the second Wednesday after it is available in GB. Two weeks for such a short trip is too much, though.
Anyway, went to the dentist this morning and after that bought some pills to easy the toothache. Close to the pharmacy there is a newspaper agent where I found a better drug.
Just browsing during lunch time and it seems to me a special Argentina issue, featuring the work of sculptor Esteban Serassio and Walsh's Buenos Aires social club.
Is it an Argentinian Dino on page 109? Never heard of a Bianco S GT, but looks like a home made Dino. More details anyone? Which engine? Coachbuilder?
For instance, the white Pegaso Z-102 Touring at the Concours d'élégance is #0102.150.0143, sold to Argentina after a long period in a single family ownership in Spain.

http://www.classicandsportscar.com/news/classic-car-events/stutz-takes-top-honours-at-premier-south-american-classic-event

 

Nuno Granja
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"I had a "Bianco" in south america", well not me but my late uncle Fernando

Mario, 

The Bianco is one of many brasilian sports cars based on the VW type 1 (beetle) chassis/engine. Designed and built by Toni Bianco, a famous brasilian race car projectist...

The 70's and early 80's are the golden era of those cars, as import taxs keep real sports cars way from brasilian shores.

 

The most sucefful was the Puma, derived from the DKW (2 stroke) based Malzoni

Even VW Brasil who allready sell two K. Ghia versions, the regular one (the original german model) and the local "TC", had developed their own "sporst car" model to compet on this segment, the SP2...

Anorak fact; the SP2 had the nickname "S"em "P"otência ("w"ithout "P"ower in portuguese). And with an almost stock  beettle derived engine, it's easy to find why the nickname stick on it.

 

My late uncle Fernando  lived at S. Paulo Brasil, between the mid 70's and the late 80's. He was a qualified engineer, with welding specialist skills, who run away from the troubled years after the portuguese revolution (1974) to run the brasilian branch of a german welding company.

As a petrol head his first car is a Mini Cooper MkII, with no bumpers, no hubcaps, motolita steering wheel, central exaust and front number plate painted on the front bonnet. We looks like Scott McKenzie and to me and my brother he was terrible cool.

As his carear goes up, in 73 he buys a BMW 1602, ligh blue metal paint, alloy wheels, motolita steering wheel, this time he keep the bumpers but he still cool as ever.

After the revolution, he get enough of strikes and moved to Brasil.

When arrived at Brasil as he had a company car, he bought a Bianco for the week-end, but after a few months he sell it.

Why? Poor built quality (one a door just fell off), the kids on the garage used the front bonnet as a slide, and most of all, a man with self image conscious, couldn't drive a car that look a mix between an Alfa 33 Stradale and a Dino, but does 17,7sec from 0 to 100km/h with maximum speed of 146km/h.

So we buys an MP Lafer, another VW type 1 based special, but with very good build quality and as it is a MG TD replica, the looks is much closer to the performance...

 

The "regular" MP Lafer ...

My uncle's is a TI with no cromes and some "modern" details...

Here his MP Lafer TI at S. Paulo...

 

When he return to Portugal in late 80's, he bring the MP Lafer, and even if he passed away a few years ago, his sons keep the car. It have less than 30.000 km and is in as new condition. In the late 80's this car turn a lot of heads here as we have not kit cars.

 

The same car at Portugal...

 

nuno granja

 

 

 

 

 

 

Chris Martin
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Brilliant story Nuno.

That is what we should use online forums for, an interesting piece of auto history told from a personal perspective.

I had heard of the Puma, I think one was featured in C&SC in recent years, (better to be careful here, it may have been the 'competition') but I did not realise there was such an industry in Brazil (for some reason I never understood that is the English spelling for Brasil) creating all the other 'sports cars' to meet the demand.

I also remember the Portugal of the days after the revolution, and the only home grown cars I saw were the Portaro, and there were a lot of SEATs, a few Spanish built Dodges and otherwise taxis were black and green Mercedes, which with most roads in the south being just dirt tracks, they all took a pounding. 

Glad to see that MP Lafer is still around, that must be a real rarity.

As for the comment from Mario about it being an Argentinian special, I had not noticed until he mentioned it, all a bit of a coincidence isn't it? 

But why not?  Argentina has a fine motoring history and even today is home to some interesting cars.  I guess it made sense to justify the expense of sending Mick Walsh out there to at least get plenty of copy.  Maybe we will get a behind the scenes look at the PurSang works?

Chris M.

 

 

Mario Laguna
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Nuno, muito obrigado.
Thank you very much for the information on the Bianco and, above all, for sharing your family story on Fernando. Captivating reading.
M,

Red Dwarf
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Well, finally the mag has arrived here!

I have complained on a number of occasions and had to struggle to get back copies of those that never reached me.  Last years delivery was better, only a week later than it should be.  Hopefully one day Haymarket will get it right!  That said, I have been waiting a long long time for this forum to be moved to a better, much more user friendly platform than this, quite the worst I use anywhere!

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Kryger
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I'm very disappointed, I haven't recived the latest issue yet and I live in Denmark right next to UK, I hope it has arrived when i get home from work today.

Michael

ik1
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Hello from Spain,

27th and the march issue hasn´t still arrived. I am also very disappointed.

Last year I was expecting it to get here around the middle of the month, normally between 15-17th. Then through the last months of the year it was getting later (around 20-21) but this month is too much. I´ll send an e-mail to get sure of what happened with march issue (it turns out that it will be march afterall if it eventually arrives) but I think that this does little favour to the magazine itself.

I ignore what the problem is and if they have a new carrier with  different delivery times than the old one, but I think it´s fair for subscribers to have an estimated delivery time that doesn´t change every couple of months.

I´m writing this because this is not the first time it happens to me, so I hope they can solve it properly (yes I want the missed issues, not adding one more to the end of my subscription).

Greetings

ik1
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Well,

Customer service finally contacted me this morning and they said the magazine was sent but must have been lost in transit. Even if they have apologised for the inconvenience, the solution they offer me is not what I expected as I especifically asked them to send me the missed issue even if I have to wait longer for it to arrive. But they say it is impossible to do so, so I regretfully have asked for a cancellation and refund of my new subscription that was due to begin with this issue.

It is a pity, and as some of you said in the thread, if delivery times where shorter there would be more time for the costumer service to find a better solution for this cases. (I live in a 75.000 inhabitants city in the north of spain, not in a small isolated village, and the distance to UK is quite short, so I can´t understand how the different items I buy from UK always arrive in 4-5 working days beeing sent in cheap carriers and for the magazine I have to wait 20 days average).

Anyway I´ll keep reading the forum in the future.

Regards.

Red Dwarf
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I got the same "it's impossible to send a replacement copy" reply once when I complained.  I then discovered that another member of the customer services team WAS sending out lost copy replacements to a freind here!   Needless to say, I contacted her and yes, I got a copy!   It seem sthat some of the team just cannot be bothered!

To make matters worse, you can be sure that if you visit the C&SC stand at any large classic event (Le Mans Classic, Goodwood etc ) they will have plenty of back issues for sale!   And I did find the very month that they had claimed they could not send!

as I have said, I receive a number of Corvette related magazines from the US and they arrive only days after freinds there receive their copies.  And, there is nothing like the huge price hike for foreign distribution that C&SC puts on!  I have repeatedly asked C&SC why their system is so poor, and received no good explanation.  And I have to say that I think its very dissapointing that there has been no imput on this thread from any C&SC staff, editorial or distribution.  

I really enjoy the mag, but I seriously wonder how long I will tolerate the ludicrously high postage cost, the late delivery and the total exclusion from any offers, prizes etc that we non UK residnts have to endure.    

 

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