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Chris Martin
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And regarding the August issue, I know space was limited in the events section, but as we rarely see Armstrong Siddeleys anyway, I thought I would post a few more photos from the same event.

The 1925 15HP was the oldest there;

A fine pair of Hurricanes;

The 'Ute' was called a Station Coupe, that is one classy pickup;

And they wore the Sphinx with pride.

Chris M.

 

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I think the problem is now the escalating cost of classic cars. .i personally think its dying off - especially E-Types. But if MGBs start hitting £20k, we're all in trouble and Classic And Sportscar will become an elitist mag. No ones fault - I guess it was like buying "Victorin London home" in. 2004!

 

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Boyd wrote:
I think the problem is now the escalating cost of classic cars. .i personally think its dying off - especially E-Types. 

While I agree some classics are becoming far too expensive, if the magazine continues to include more recent and less expensive cars, I believe it can continue to be the very successful and inclusive magazine it has always been.

I have really appreciated James Page's articles on affordable sports cars, especially the MGA. I also enjoy reading what he has written about his MX-5. 

 

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I must say, I love the Station Coupe, Chris.

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  Can i just say i buy this magazine to read to acknowledge as mutch classic information and not to comment how good or bad the subjects are i have been buying this mag for as long as i remember and cant fault it End Off  Henryk

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I had just finish reading the latest CSC (August).

I enjoy it as usual, keeping me tuned with the classic car world and get some more knowledge about cars.

The article Arabian KNIGHTS is my overall favorite, both by the contents and by the stunning pics, and second came the fabulous story of the GP Panhard

The other articles as the  Spitfire at 50, Alfa Giulia full story , "Far out man!" or the Woseley badge-enginered cars, just to name a few, are good as usual and plenty of good motor journalism and photos.

The regulars as Buckley's "Backfire", are excellent as usual. The "Your Classics"  Morris 25 tale is fabulous and  in "our classics"  the David Evans report is interesting, but the best pieces are the tales about the evolutionary relationship between Mrs Clements and Mrs Port and the classic's they have at home.

 

Two notes:

I love the graphic solution "Spitfire 50" on the cover of the article. From my point of view, CSC tends to be  conservative in this area and this details give some fresh air.

I miss some more recent cars as in the last issue (A112..., Sud, Rocco, Sierra...), but again is only my point of view.

 

keep the good work

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Boyd wrote:

I think the problem is now the escalating cost of classic cars. .i personally think its dying off - especially E-Types. But if MGBs start hitting £20k, we're all in trouble and Classic And Sportscar will become an elitist mag. No ones fault - I guess it was like buying "Victorin London home" in. 2004!

 

Not sure what he's getting at there, but if and when MGBs hit 20k it will only be when demand and supply and inflation dictate it so. Many of us have our own favourite memories of what prices classics used to be advertised at, and although I am not quite that old, I have seen fifties ads for twenties Bugattis and Bentleys at what were then bargain prices, and with hindsight we could all go back in time to when a Bugatti/AC Cobra/Ford GT etc was just an out of date cheap sports car. How much did Nick Mason cheat inflation by buying his GTO when he did?

As for the 'B, it is only following behind it's more upmarket brethren, Big Healeys, E-Types etc, but although I was never a fan, it is now old enough to acquire true Classic status as well as always having been a Sports Car. This progression always has, and probably always will continue, and if that means certain models command prices beyond the reach of the impecunious, we have to look to the next generation which is why magazines like C&SC are now often talking up the MX5. No, I am not a fan of that model either, but just as the MGB was the poor man's Ferrari twenty years ago, now the Mazda is the poor man's MGB.

I bought a Victorian London home in 1984, but again that is just a circumstance of age, I did well out of it, but would not have wanted to pay 2004 prices for it. 

The point is, while some would like their low-budget models to get some recognition as 'Classic' then they can't really complain if that then pushes values up beyond their means. Not every old car has outstripped inflation, but then not everyone gets too excited about Morris Marinas.

And if that makes C&SC an 'elitist' magazine, then I am with them.

Chris M.

 

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Russell Campbell wrote:

I must say, I love the Station Coupe, Chris.

Good

because there was another in a light beige too.

The Station Coupe was intended as a slightly more upmarket dual purpose vehicle in it's day, which shows a remarkable foresight for a manufacturer who always had a very conservative reputation. The load area is not that big, but there is a second bench seat with room for a claimed six passengers all up.

Armstrong Siddeley also offered a Utility Coupe version, which only had a single bench seat, but a longer load area out the back.

Chris M.

 

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Nuno Granja wrote:

I had just finish reading the latest CSC (August).

I enjoy it as usual, keeping me tuned with the classic car world and get some more knowledge about cars.

 keep the good work

That’s enough, I am moving to Portugal - Nuno has just finished reading his August C&SC in Portugal and I have not even received mine here in Australia yet.

I had a good sneaky read of one a couple of weeks ago in a newsagent in town, but mine still is not here.

So, what gives?

It has been getting later all this year, previously I used to get it within a week of publication, last few months have been more than two weeks, this time even later, so what has changed? If it was a one-off occurrence ok, but there has been a definite trend so far this year and it is getting worse.

There has always been a two speed system here, most shops get their regular supply of British magazines by whatever is the cheaper distribution, presumably by containers on ships, and that means they appear here about eight weeks late. Ok, that is normal, and charged the normal cover price, but then there are some newsagents, generally the bigger ones in the the major town centres that get it within a week, and these have a big orange and green sticker on the front cover over the area where the price is printed that states 'Latest Airfreight Issue' and there is another label over that which shows a higher price, usually by five or six dollars. This is for all popular mag's, not just C&SC.

So, some folks are happy to pay a bit extra for the latest, because there is another distributor who is bringing them in at extra expense by air.

Now, here's my beef!

If they can get stocks here and in the shops within a week of publication, why can't mine get here?

Haymarket Publishing use themagazineshop.com as their subscriber service, and there is in their terms the expected disclaimer "Overseas subscribers will receive their copies dependent on shipping method and location - please contact customer services for details specific to your subscription." and that may be so, but in that case who is shipping the airfreight ones for the shops, and why can't mine come by the same method? Have Haymarket changed from a previously fast airmail service to a slower (and presumably cheaper) freight method?

If it has to continue to be such an unreliable service, then what is the point of a subscription – I may as well just get it in the shop as and when it turns up.

Anyone at C&SC care to have a guess? Or is it just that the Royal Mail has lost the plot?

Chris M.

 

Chris Martin
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Whoopeeeee, the September C&SC is out and I still have not received the August mag'. It has been getting later each month this year, but now, why bother with a subscription, I could wait and buy it in the shops like everyone else.

Chris M.