goodwood revival

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peterhughes512002
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is it just me?after missing last year has the Revival become over crowded and too corporate?

I could not get near a spectator bank to watch a race,queued for an hour to get into car park then 15 min just to cross the road to the entrance,gotpushed and shoved all day and paid £54 for the privildge

have the Press now been so corralled that they dare not criticise?

 

The who;e thing felt like a british G.P. in the early 80's so definitely retro authentic then !

martinh
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Try Angoulême "Circuit des Remparts" next year at the same time.

Am just back from a fantastically atmospheric weekend there and didn´t hear  "must have" or "vintage clothes shop in Camden"  once. I did hear stripped down  Bugatti 35s being revved around the town hall, and a V12 Matra  fired up in the dark, however.....

Agree about the presskrieg coverage of Goodwood! Though not a media partner/tart in the manner of the Telegraph, even C&SC website seems to take a "By the way there was some good racing" line and focus on the side show. I´m a serious car guy. I want the meat.

Despite what Brits think, there are fine historic meetings most months in the season all over the globe. Nostalgia and history are not the same thing, nor does size matter except to the promotor. Personally I prefer not to pay Goodwood sort of money to be a film extra in someone else´s pageant, having no interest in Glam Cabs, Dad´s Army or Marilyn Monroe (beyond that  they all might rest in peace........)

Others obviously have a different view!

Tim D
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Alternate view alert!

I adore Goodwood Revival and have only missed one in the fourteen years it has been running. (Small matter of an incautiously scheduled wedding in 2009 - mine...!)

While some of the sideshows are a little toe-curling, I find that it provides more entertainment for the casual visitor than the Silverstone Festival or the Brands Masters, while providing some of the bravest and most spectacular historic racing on the calendar. Having stood in torrential rain watching the TT Celebration within a couple of feet of Kenny Brack in the Daytona Cobra who had been spinning his wheels in any gear at any speed even in the dry. my life is just that little bit more complete.

The crowds are getting a bit much at the start/finish area, but a brisk walk or a lucky tractor ride away, there were front or second row spectating opportunities the length of the circuit on all three days. I know - my wife and I were dipping in and out of the racing all weekend, taking advantage of the air displays to move along a bit to achieve our personal laps of the circuit, and we were able to find an uninterrupted view on almost every occasion.

It's not perfect. The twits who decided to place the jiving teenagers opposite Tescos and thereby completely jamming the only thoroughfare behind the Woodcote grandstand need their heads seeing to. The traffic control in and out of the car parks was unprofessional to a degree I've not seen before - including the car park attendant on Sunday night who very nearly got himself killed by stepping straight in front of a Carrera RS which was trying to cope with an inch of soft mud under its wheels. The GlamCabs have been there for five years now and it's getting a little old - perhaps they could have a sabbatical, and there simply aren't enough loos especially when everyone is doing battle with unfamiliar garments and taking twice as long as usual.

But it really is something I never want to miss. And neither does my wife. And she'd never been to a race meeting of any kind before I took her to Goodwood. Now she will enthusiastically suggest clubbies at Snetterton or Mallory for a Sunday afternoon's entertainment, even if they don't provide the same level of opportunity for people-watching. Now that, my friends, is the glory of Goodwood. It is attracting new enthusiasts who might never have picked up on the historic racing phenomenon. Who knows - perhaps 2012 will be the year she's going to tell the difference between an Elva Mk7 and a Brabham BT8.

And finally, if only the good people who organise Angouleme would put theirs back a week sometime, we could get to that one, too. Oulton Gold Cup, Beaulieu, Goodwood and the Circuit des Remparts on consecutive weekends - what a holiday that would be.

James Elliott
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More views on this please. It is a fascinating (and important) debate.

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Avante
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Arrive at earlier or later time

Plenty of spectator space at Lavant and St Mary's

getting in to circuit see first point

I thought it was less busy this year especially on Friday...Yes it has got too commercial with the big guns hospitality but Goodwood say that it wouldnt survive if they didnt do that.

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MrBenovich
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Saturday is a zoo. Sunday is by far the best day to go. Easier to get around.

Viewing up by Lavant and St Mary's is definately less crowded. Most spectators want to view arounf the main straight/Woodcote area as it is close to the trading village, tunnel access and themed areas. Grandstand seats are quick to sell, and I always miss out on some at Woodcote...

I do agree moer corporate stuff is creeping in, but in fairness Goodwood do need to keep the event a grat one and this costs money. i didn't go last year and could see for 2011 the themed areas (Tesco, Delonghi etc) was very impressive and both trader villages were much larger. Plus, those corporates do go the extra mile to fit in with the period setting and create interesting distractions.

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Saturday is a zoo. Sunday is by far the best day to go. Easier to get around.

Viewing up by Lavant and St Mary's is definately less crowded. Most spectators want to view arounf the main straight/Woodcote area as it is close to the trading village, tunnel access and themed areas. Grandstand seats are quick to sell, and I always miss out on some at Woodcote...

I do agree more corporate stuff is creeping in, but in fairness Goodwood do need to keep the event a grat one and this costs money. i didn't go last year and could see for 2011 the themed areas (Tesco, Delonghi etc) was very impressive and both trader villages were much larger. Plus, those corporates do go the extra mile to fit in with the period setting and create interesting distractions.

DavidChaps
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Did anyone else get the email survey from Goodwood yesterday ?  It starts out on the right track with the
sort of questions I’d expect but then goes in to a data harvesting exercise:
Who I insure with, how much I earn, would I buy Olympic tickets ?  etc,
etc.  In the end I bailed out.  Very Disappointing !

I hope it’s not the case that Marchs’ Merry Marketing Men think
they can treat the attendees as punter fodder that they can harvest data from
and sell on to (junk) marketing outfits. That’s the sort of stunt many
attendees will not tolerate and could be a sign that the best Revival years are
now in the past, not the future.

Brands like Kenwood, Tesco, Butlins etc I think add to Revival
because they were very much of the period but I want them there in the context
of celebrating their heritage. Subconsciously yes it might make me more likely
to buy their current products but the minute they try to sell it to me they
have crossed the line and I’m considerably less likely give them any of my
money !   And I certainly did not appreciate the new cars being punted in "Earls Court"

Revival  IS a premium event (you know that as you enter to
the sound of “get your programme here, only £12”  and I can’t believe
anyone left the car park thinking “that was a cheap day out”. That’s
fine and part of the deal but surely, given the numbers, the event “washes its own face”
financially. 

The yellow jackets handling the parking and crowd control seem to get worse every year, more quantity but less quality and now they just seem for the most part to be a bunch of uninterested unorganised grunting youths, very different to the early years, I guess the task has been outsourced on price.

Also concerning is some grumbling in the pits area about the way the drivers are now treated. Word is there will be no Minis racing there next year ? Anyone else hear that ?

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There certainly seemed to be more visitors this year than last but you can hardly blame the organisers for the fact that their event is so popular. I parked in the C&SC sponsored 'Revival Car Show' in my 1969 wooden chassis Marcos and had no difficulties either parking or with the staff on hand, although I did arrive pretty early. It was great to be parked next to a 275 GTB Ferrari, making for an interesting justaposition of '60s styling. Around the circuit it was a bit more difficult to find easy viewing space this year but not impossible. The racing, though, was fantastic and for me this is what makes the Revival so enjoyable. Yes, it is all hideously expensive - £6.50 for a burger and £3.50 for a tiny plate of chips, for example - but we're a captive audience and ultimately we know what we're letting ourselves in for; next year I'll probably bring a picnic. Despite some of the grumbles though it is a fantastic event and one at which participants really enter into the spirit of the era in a way that is hard to find elsewhere. I did the Silverstone Classic this year, which I also enjoyed but the venue is less intimate and it is far more difficult to move around the circuit than at Goodwood. So for me, I reckon the Revival is still a briliant day out.

Tim D
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Regarding the absence of Minis next year, doesn't the St Marys Trophy alternate between fifties and sixties era? While I was pining for Mustang hardtops this year, at least the Plymouth Barracuda hot-rod wasn't brought back this year, and next year we will be looking forward to A35s vs Mk7 Jags again.

A note on how popular the event is becoming. I was talking to the chap who arranged the Goodwood Ale this week, who recounted how in 2010 they sold 50 kegs across the weekend. This year, they sold all 50 by the end of Friday. As it is a micro-brewery, there simply isn't the capacity to increase production, so we had to resort to Speckled Hen as early as Saturday lunchtime at Lavant.

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For those of you who wish not to pay £54 Saturday or £60 Sunday and would rather not get up at the crack of dawn to avoid the traffic jams,might I suggest if you live within 60 miles of Goodwood ,leave around 10 am by which time most of the traffic be inside theevent,drive in to the public car park (FREE) and spend a few hours around the pre 66 car park area...amazing experience.