Mini: to mod or not? That is the question...

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mk1coopers
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GreaseMonkey wrote:

Thanks for the explanation and web link mk1coopers, I guess it is another use of the technique for elaborate designs we see on trucks and buses.

I have a suspicion though, that for a Mini it might cost more than a regular paint job?

Chris M.

Possibly, the estimates on the site don't look too bad, the bonus is that you can revert back to standard without another respray, so it may work out cost effective over time (or when you come to sell) :).

Going back to part of Martin's original question 'what's going too far' I would say doing anything to car that requires cutting the body, such as fitting Vtec / R1 / Vauxhall engines, de-seaming,( I don't mind the look, but there were only a few Minis that were de-seamed in period, mostly the coach built cars from the likes of Radford / W&P) fitting 13x6 wheels then cutting the front wings so they will clear ect (when the car originally had 10's) Cars that have had major modifications that have been done to the owners tastes will always be more difficult to sell unless you can find someone with the same vision as you. The exception to the rule is doing a car that replicates another sought after period car that would be hard to get hold of because of either rarity or cost (Sebring Sprites, Minisprints, specific Ex-works cars, ect) if this is done well using period parts and paying attention to the details you can end up with a very saleable car.

Martin Port
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Thanks for the suggestion mk1coopers - I had thought about wrapping for the roof colour change to black. The problem is, the car desperately needs a bit of tlc on the bodywork and new paint and so what is there at the moment isn't really worth preserving. As for the mods, there will be no cutting involved or anything else drastic. I think we've settled on refurbing and fitting the Dunlop D1 wheels, fitting the smallest arches we can get away with (these will be black to match the original grille), a repaint in a very similar colour to the original (if not the same), changing the roof to black and fitting a new exhaust system and manifold (Janspeed - nothing too outrageous). At some point I may do as we did on our old '68 MkII and fit twin SUs and have the head ported, but that will be something to consider later on.

I don't think that sounds TOO drastic and will give the little car a little more 'attitude' in appearance and performance.

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mk1coopers
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That sounds like a good plan, may I suggest Group 2 Arches, a nice 60's modification, and you can still run the sill finisher on these (either black or chrome which keeps it neat (better looking than the later black plastic arches which only have the trim between them in my opinion)

http://www.minispares.com/Product.aspx?pid=34787

NKPRS2
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I have a Mk 3 S.. it  is in currently in restoration and will be built back to matching numbers standard spec. 

My opinion is keep your car outward looking standard,with a paint job to suit the period, but do upgrade the brakes to 4 pot callipers they are affordable.

Then subject to your pocket upgrade the Engine & put on a sensible exhaust 

Do not forget the gearbox get it checked out .. most forget .. and then fit a quick shift gear lever,  what a difference that makes.

Then go and enjoy your Mini .. great car .

 

Goodwood
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I say most definatly MOD! You say in the original post you both would prefer it, so why pay to have it done out in a way that is not your preference?!

paul1275s
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Do what you want to it, It's your car at the end of the day, it's on the road, being loved and used! 

But.. The 80's Minis are getting very rare in original spec, so please don't do anything that cannot be easily reversed...

My personal take on this car would be retain the base colour, paint or wrap the roof to suit your taste, keep 10" wheels (the 'exacton' or Mini Special wheels would be my choice), upgrade to Cooper S discs at the front, new rubber springs, a Hi Lo kit, Spax shocks, retain the 998, 12G295 Head from a 1275 with hardened valve seats (pocketed to fit the 998), single SU HIF38, Swiftune SW5 cam, LCB, twin box Maniflow side exit exhaust (A lovely burble without too much noise). 

The 998 is a fabulous engine and benefits from being readily available for pennies (I've obtained about 5 for free because people were going to throw them away after fitting 1275's..) Don't faff about with twin SU's when you can get a single HIF38 (again for pennies). Fit a later distributor with leccy ignition (metro/maestro or late Mini)

You are not going to get away without fitting some sort of arches (unless you source some 's' steelies), period to this car would be the dirt cheap and readily available 'Special' arches.

I've got a 91 'Mainstream' Cooper, cosmetically bog standard, mechanically slightly upgraded. The point at which I found the mods were getting too far was when I fitted Poly Subframe mounts (the NVH was unacceptable) and Negative camber Bottom arms (increased front tyre wear).

Other Don'ts would be aftermarket Air Filters and Bonnet Stripes!!!

Good Luck, Have Fun, Keep us posted!

P.S. The forum on this site; http://www.mlmotorsport.com/ is a direct path to the knowledge of A C Dodd who is the best and most sensible road (i.e.Not Race) Mini tuner I have ever had the pleasure of knowing!

dlc74
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Well Martin, i think you should leave it as close to OEM as possible, or at least any modification you do should be 'period'. Stick the Dunlops on but fit them with 145/70 10 tyres, that way there's no need to fit any arches. As for the rarity, maybe it is rare; according to here:  http://www.howmanyleft.co.uk/?q=mini+hl   there are only 248 left... and i bet not many in Primula Yellow.

 

:o)

D Curtis

mk1coopers
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So now we have the answer, "to mod or not", it's "not" as the car is on eBay at the moment, good luck with the sale, perhaps one day you will find a Mini that's either modified to your taste or is a blank canvas for you to do :-)

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paul1275s wrote:

Do what you want to it, It's your car at the end of the day, it's on the road, being loved and used! 

But.. The 80's Minis are getting very rare in original spec, so please don't do anything that cannot be easily reversed...

My personal take on this car would be retain the base colour, paint or wrap the roof to suit your taste, keep 10" wheels (the 'exacton' or Mini Special wheels would be my choice), upgrade to Cooper S discs at the front, new rubber springs, a Hi Lo kit, Spax shocks, retain the 998, 12G295 Head from a 1275 with hardened valve seats (pocketed to fit the 998), single SU HIF38, Swiftune SW5 cam, LCB, twin box Maniflow side exit exhaust (A lovely burble without too much noise). 

The 998 is a fabulous engine and benefits from being readily available for pennies (I've obtained about 5 for free because people were going to throw them away after fitting 1275's..) Don't faff about with twin SU's when you can get a single HIF38 (again for pennies). Fit a later distributor with leccy ignition (metro/maestro or late Mini)

You are not going to get away without fitting some sort of arches (unless you source some 's' steelies), period to this car would be the dirt cheap and readily available 'Special' arches.

I've got a 91 'Mainstream' Cooper, cosmetically bog standard, mechanically slightly upgraded. The point at which I found the mods were getting too far was when I fitted Poly Subframe mounts (the NVH was unacceptable) and Negative camber Bottom arms (increased front tyre wear).

Other Don'ts would be aftermarket Air Filters and Bonnet Stripes!!!

Good Luck, Have Fun, Keep us posted!

P.S. The forum on this site; http://www.mlmotorsport.com/ is a direct path to the knowledge of A C Dodd who is the best and most sensible road (i.e.Not Race) Mini tuner I have ever had the pleasure of knowing!

mini special
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mini special wrote:
paul1275s wrote:

Do what you want to it, It's your car at the end of the day, it's on the road, being loved and used! 

But.. The 80's Minis are getting very rare in original spec, so please don't do anything that cannot be easily reversed...

My personal take on this car would be retain the base colour, paint or wrap the roof to suit your taste, keep 10" wheels (the 'exacton' or Mini Special wheels would be my choice), upgrade to Cooper S discs at the front, new rubber springs, a Hi Lo kit, Spax shocks, retain the 998, 12G295 Head from a 1275 with hardened valve seats (pocketed to fit the 998), single SU HIF38, Swiftune SW5 cam, LCB, twin box Maniflow side exit exhaust (A lovely burble without too much noise). 

The 998 is a fabulous engine and benefits from being readily available for pennies (I've obtained about 5 for free because people were going to throw them away after fitting 1275's..) Don't faff about with twin SU's when you can get a single HIF38 (again for pennies). Fit a later distributor with leccy ignition (metro/maestro or late Mini)

You are not going to get away without fitting some sort of arches (unless you source some 's' steelies), period to this car would be the dirt cheap and readily available 'Special' arches.

I've got a 91 'Mainstream' Cooper, cosmetically bog standard, mechanically slightly upgraded. The point at which I found the mods were getting too far was when I fitted Poly Subframe mounts (the NVH was unacceptable) and Negative camber Bottom arms (increased front tyre wear).

Other Don'ts would be aftermarket Air Filters and Bonnet Stripes!!!

Good Luck, Have Fun, Keep us posted!

P.S. The forum on this site; http://www.mlmotorsport.com/ is a direct path to the knowledge of A C Dodd who is the best and most sensible road (i.e.Not Race) Mini tuner I have ever had the pleasure of knowing!