Mystery Car

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wellsago
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Hi
all,

         This is just a bit of fun
really. My friend and i have a running completion to identify obscure cars,
engines etc. I have i have been doing well resulting in being a few points
ahead. But annoyingly he has got me stumped on this car. At first i thought
thats easy, it is Lancia Aurelia (or a Ferina Body) but after looking trough every variation the
Lancia it always look a little different.

I suppose this is a cheating a little, but I am a competitive
chap!

Can anyone help please?

 



 The car:     http://i40.tinypic.com/261okgg.jpg    

The engine:       http://i44.tinypic.com/91lbx4.jpg

 

Thankyou in Advance

 Alexander

DUESIE
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It does look like a slightly squashed Lancia B20 but maybe not by Pininfarina. Just a hunch, but as the first fifty or so were assembled by Viotto and finished by Ghia to a Ghia design, before production switched to Pininfarina, and as Ghia showed a Ferrari Inter coupe with those exact proprotions, even including a similar chrome vent on the front wing, maybe what we see here is a Lancia/Ghia prototype? Just a hunch as I said. Martin Buckley of C&SC is a bit of a Lancia fan, maybe he can comment here.

 

mikeC
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If that's its original engine, then it doesn't look Lancia to me. That would appear to be a conventional in-line ohv 4-cylinder, rather than the Lancia's V4 arrangement. Could it perhaps be a Fiat dressed up to look  like a Lancia?

wellsago
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Hi both,

   Thanks for the replys, yes the four cylinder engine engine confused me. I was woundering if that was a logo on rocker cover?

I was starting to think it was a different marque in disguise (as you say),  but my competion partner assured me it was all original (and that it was none of the sugggest above sorry!)

Might it be Japanese? Although it is a bit to beautiful, albeit they did make some. (a italian copy?)

 

Regards Alex

 

GBt
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 I think this is what it probably is,

 

 

DUESIE
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Well done GBt!

You are spot-on. I was flipping between Ghia by David Burgess-Wise and Pininfarina by Frostick trying to unravel the body design. Although that design seems to have first appeared on a Ferrari in 1950 your Italian ad has a 1950 date stamp too, so both probably pre-date the Lancia B20.

It seems Lancia did not expect that to be a big seller and contracted Ghia to produce the body, which was obviously the same design as on the Ferrari and the SIATA. Ghia at the time could not manage the work and sub-contraced Viotto. Lancia only turned it over to Pininfarina for production later.

The significant link in Burgess-Wise's book is that in 1950 Ghia recruited Luigi Segre who was already the commercial director of SIATA so there were close ties there too.

But the ad dated 1950 states "costruzione Stabilimenti Farina" (which was Pinifarinas name back then) so maybe Ghia did not have the capacity to build this one either?

SIATA was of course already known for tuning Fiats.

A slight red-herring is that the original photo posted above has been squashed making the car look shorter and taller, notice the slightly oval wheels. Those full wheel covers are typical Ghia too.

Now our enquirer Alexander can rest easy thanks to GBt.

A quick Google just found one for sale on Bring-A-Trailer;

http://bringatrailer.com/2011/01/15/50-51-siata-daina-coupe/

DUESIE
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Also just noticed there is a feature on the SIATA Daina in the latest The Automobile, if I may plug a rival magazine.

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DUESIE wrote:

Also just noticed there is a feature on the SIATA Daina in the latest The Automobile, if I may plug a rival magazine.

 

Seeing as I came here to post exactly the same thing having just received my issue, I guess you may!

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DUESIE
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Just found a photo of a 1950 Maserati A6 by Pininfarina which looks exactly the same, but I don't think the second photo is of a Maserati engine though. One wonders how many makes shared this same design, whether by Farina or Ghia?

GBt
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D 1500 Maserati A6 

 

 

 


 


 

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