Quite simple Mystery Car Identity

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I have only ever seen one of these before, and had quite a chat with the owner back in the early noughties- not that easy to identify, but maybe it will engebder some new interest.

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Consider my interest engendered. First impression, a slightly sporty mid-thirties British saloon. The badge on the radiator looks vaguely Talbot so it could be something from the confusing Sunbeam/Talbot/Darracq family that came out of Barlby Road W10 at that time. Another possibility would be a sporty Standard similar to the SS version that became Jaguar, or one of those rare straight-eight Triumphs related to the first Dolomite (from the pre-Rubbish era).

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Yep if I didnt know the identity I would be thinking along Talbot lines-8  is along the right lines too but it needs to be V' eed,Yes  Brit and yes it has a direct link to a Trad manufacturer, albeit full scale production didnt take off...think latterally

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Autovia.

By Riley. I have to admit it was the clue of an 8 Veed that reminded me. Georgano's says between '37 and '38, two Riley 1.5 blocks were used to make the eight, a pre-selector gearbox and worm drive rear axle. They did not survive Riley's financial trouble of 1938.

Thanks for posting a rarity though, we need more like that on here and less Datsuns.

Chris M.

 

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When first viewed my immediate reaction was pre-war Talbot and rushed off to my albums to check out  photo's of my old car that I used as a transporter for the National service guy's in my billet in the RAF. I gave the local garage £22-00 for it , "drive away "in decent nick or so I thought !. They could not sell it because everyone was afraid of ( or could not handle) the pre-selelector transmission (bit of a mystery to most folks) recently saw the car for sale (suitable for restoration £6000 or offers) . Your car proved to  be a different make.  .Next guess went to Jenson 1937 (lady series) but  I was not convinced as I had never actually owned one of that model of Jenson only later ones, but once an owner you tend to get  a small knowledge of your cars istory . so next guess Lea-Francis or as a lahst resort  Salmson (grand touring)

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 Just came up with the photo of our military transporter ( beer- wagon) a quite rare Talbot 107 saloon, we had some very good nights out with this funeral follower , which actually performed more like a sports tourer, of course being in the RAF we were all "tearaways" and needed a fast getaway car ?  mainly  irrate fathers !! or offended boyfriends , All went well untill one night  while rushing back to camp the front  wheels fell off 

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 Should have "sused out" the Riley Octovia V8 because I have owned several models of that marque, Kestrel SS,  Monaco and a sprint special replica of the "Brooklands" team car which I raced for a while and used for daily transport occasionally, I understand this car is still in regular use in current historic events today. I even got issued with a Riley (two- tone) 4/72 while working as field service engineer for big bad BMC Corp and so picked up some of the firms history. Photo is of sprinter/ racer:-

RolyMo

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rolymo35 wrote:

When first viewed my immediate reaction was pre-war Talbot and rushed off to my albums to check out  photo's of my old car that I used as a transporter for the National service guy's in my billet in the RAF. I gave the local garage £22-00 for it , "drive away "in decent nick or so I thought !. They could not sell it because everyone was afraid of ( or could not handle) the pre-selelector transmission (bit of a mystery to most folks) recently saw the car for sale (suitable for restoration £6000 or offers) . Your car proved to  be a different make.  .Next guess went to Jenson 1937 (lady series) but  I was not convinced as I had never actually owned one of that model of Jenson only later ones, but once an owner you tend to get  a small knowledge of your cars istory . so next guess Lea-Francis or as a lahst resort  Salmson (grand touring)

Yep, agree with RolyMo.  I also thought British Salmson, looked it up, not the same, then even before the V8 clue I had checked out Jensen, different again, but they did use the old Ford 'flattie' back then. Meanwhile, if that old Talbot is for sale as a restoration project, it will probably resurface as yet another replica of the Fox and Nichol Le Mans team cars more's the pity. It would probably be worth more and cost less than restoring a full saloon, but I would like to see it come back as it should be, all original.

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Now the the mystery is over maybe everyone would like a new challange, a sporty 2 seater with a big sister ;- only clue  " kind of frame" ?

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Looks like a squashed Studebaker Avanti, going on those wheels and the maybe a Cadilac script and emblem, prototype based on an Oldsmobile Toronado, or just a rebodied seventees fwd, Seville ?

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 You will need to research a bit more than that , it is not a prototype, definately serious production .Had a  huge press release day and was purchased (or gifted) to some top film stars ?

RolyMo