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Häbi me (need meist, kes dont või harjumus tellida Sky) ainult saada edited tipphetki kvalifitseeruval ja ainult uuesti jooksu võistlus ise.Samuti olen hooldaja 93-aastane, kes samuti armastab GP võibolla ma ohusta mu põhimõtteid (kes on lubanud mulle meeldib palju oleks boycot seda) ja saada täielik BT TV pakett minna lairiba telefoni paketi. Kuid nad ütlevad mõned Skysports kanaleid-nii Hockey ja korvpalli? Natuke nagu con töö Hospital pay as you go leevendada sa raha ja kunagi tagasi võlgu pakett raha või kaotada oma recordsif 1 heidab kraam-mis ma tegin stick minu põhimõtete üle ja mitte resubscribe, kuigi Briti GP oli . Kuid see läheb ootele kuni ma saan mööda minna, kuid ma kahtlen, neil on see hooldekodudes-keegi ei tea, mida paketi Sport BT pakkuda koos Sky-I ei saa muuta oma lepingu praegu muide.

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He could, and he did!

Top man, and looking good for the season. I reckon most of the points scorers would be happy with today except Hamilton. Button was always going to win that, but Vettel and Webber did ok, they should be happy. Maldonado looked like Wally of the year for throwing desperately needed good Williams points at the wall with a no hoper pass on the last lap, but hero of the day must be Alonso for bringing a very ordinary looking Ferrari home in fifth, and underacheiver of the day was definitely Mercedes.

Question though, what possible reason is there for Ferrari to keep Massa on? My only guess is they had hoped to sign a recovered Kubica on last year and then waited for him to get fit. For too long as it turned out, by which time all other driver contracts had been settled. Sure if and when Kubica does recover, he will probably get a Ferrari drive, but that may yet be a while off, so why are they wasting a car? One of the new generation of juniors would fit right in there, Perez, Ricciardo etc, (and there is NO contract that can't be bought) but meanwhile the Italian press is asking why are there no Italian drivers on the grid this year. If Ferrari took the long term view that Red Bull and McLaren do to promote young hopefuls, there would not only be Italian drivers, but the likes of Massa and Petrov would not be in F1.

Ok, rant over, Malaysia next week, and I predict a similar result, except Mercedes should be back in the mix.

Go the Jenson!

Chris M.

Ok, rant over,

Well done thanks for that spoiler, and the only to be expected usaully submitted ill mannered highly superior attitude and opinions about everything!.

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Häbi me (need meist, kes dont või harjumus tellida Sky) ainult saada edited tipphetki kvalifitseeruval ja ainult uuesti jooksu võistlus ise.Samuti olen hooldaja 93-aastane, kes samuti armastab GP võibolla ma ohusta mu põhimõtteid (kes on lubanud mulle meeldib palju oleks boycot seda) ja saada täielik BT TV pakett minna lairiba telefoni paketi. Kuid nad ütlevad mõned Skysports kanaleid-nii Hockey ja korvpalli? Natuke nagu con töö Hospital pay as you go leevendada sa raha ja kunagi tagasi võlgu pakett raha või kaotada oma recordsif 1 heidab kraam-mis ma tegin stick minu põhimõtete üle ja mitte resubscribe, kuigi Briti GP oli . Kuid see läheb ootele kuni ma saan mööda minna, kuid ma kahtlen, neil on see hooldekodudes-keegi ei tea, mida paketi Sport BT pakkuda koos Sky-I ei saa muuta oma lepingu praegu muide.

Well done thanks for that spoiler, and the only to be expected usaully submitted ill mannered highly superior attitude and opinions about everything!.

Spoiler ? What spoils what? Explain yourself.

Ill mannered ? Where ?

Opinions ? Isn't that what forums are for ?

Superior ? A retarded wombat could have made a superior post on this than the above rubbish.

Look mate, do yourself a favour, if you have nothing to say, keep quiet. If you are only on here to try to prove how smart you are you are going the wrong way about it.

Chris M.

 

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Great race.and watched it for the first time in HD, and much to my amazement I could actually tell the difference. great coverage by SKY i thought.

Always looking for my next project!

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Look mate, do yourself a favour, if you have nothing to say, keep quiet. If you are only on here to try to prove how smart you are you are going the wrong way about it.

Chris M.

The irony...

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Still shaping up for a classic season.

Both McLaren drivers in the hunt, both Red Bull drivers nearly there, but Vettel on the back foot for a change. Lotus is looking racey too, if Raikonnen can get some luck, and Grosjean can keep it on the road beyond the first lap, they could be in with big points. Mercedes again, promise a lot and deliver little. Then there is the Massa question.

Well, one has to be suspicious when the team puts out press releases almost daily stressing how they are all behind him with full support etc etc, that sounds to me like he is on notice, and as Perez is one of the young Ferrari drivers on what amounts to a scholarship from Maranello and scoring heroic points in a Ferrari engined but otherwise unfancied car one has to suspect he is in line for promotion sooner rather than later. At the least they could swap, save some face by giving Massa another chance back at Sauber, where his F1 career effectively started.

Well that should account for the top ten points scorers, but with Mercedes failing to deliver, Grojean falling off soon after the start and Massa going backwards, there are points still to be gained for the likes of Force India or Toro Rosso.

Two races down, and a long way to go, so is it too soon to be seeing a pattern?

Roll on China.

Chris M.

 

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Enjoy F1, also think it may well be a Button year, and no Rosberg will get beat by Shuey this year ... it is already 2-0.

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Another great race, this year is shaping up to be a classic, that was almost as good as a Formula Ford 10 lapper !

So it is still looking like a fight between Hamilton and Button, and even though he is a couple of points behind, I am still backing Jenson for the title. Again Webber got the upper hand with Vettel, unless Seb gets it going soon, he will find himself repaying a few favours behind Mark this year.

And then there is Alonso, still dragging the Ferrari into positions it has no right to be in, and ok, an unforced error cost him today, but he is still third overall, so we have to say he is going great again.

But Mercedes.......well yes, Schumachers retirement was not his fault, and such things do happen, (Buttons stop today, and was it Hungary last year, or the year before, where Button lost a wheel coming out of the pits?) but sorry Tinker, I still believe Rosberg has the measure of the most over-rated (unless of course, you just go by statistics alone).driver ever in F1.

Oooh errr, controversial? Me?

Chris M.

 

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Very controversial ... how an earth can you say a 7 time world F1 champion is overrated ?????? with 91 victories, 68 pole positions and 154 podiums ....

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Very controversial ... how an earth can you say a 7 time world F1 champion is overrated ?????? with 91 victories, 68 pole positions and 154 podiums ....

Sorry if I have offended a Schuey fan, but your reply is exactly what I meant. Rated by statistics alone = over-rated.

I am not putting him down, or even saying he is not ONE of the greats, but it is all too easy for armchair enthusiasts to judge solely by statistics with out digging deeper to find the whole story.

If we go by the stats alone, then he must be not only the greatest, but the results you list above imply he is twice the champion Senna, Stewart, Prost, Piquet or Lauda were, or three times better than Clark or (G) Hill, never mind Moss who never won the title. He even outscores Fangio by a long way, but I think you will have a long wait to find anyone more closely involved in F1 who would support that claim. That is what I mean by over rated. I am not saying he is not good, just not that good.

Many in the pit lane know the real stories behind his remarkable run of success, particularly at Ferrari.

In the early nineties let's just say that after learning at the feet of the master, he took the 'dirty tricks' style that Senna occasionally used and took it one step further. It worked at the Macau Grand Prix at Mika Hakkinen's expense while he was still in F3, and a few years later he perfected the technique in F1 resulting in his deliberate ramming of Damon Hill at Adelaide '94 to see how far he could push his luck. It paid off, he took his first title and he never looked back.

Then when he moved to Ferrari, and Brawn went with him, they re-wrote the rules and used Ferrari's (shall we say political) clout to ensure any indiscretions were overlooked. Jean Todt may one day write that book, I doubt Brawn or Montezemolo will. Any other team would have lost their points for failing post race scrutineering. For example to cite one incident, I know very well what tolerances such components as barge boards were made to, then checked, and double checked in the inspection department at the factory, before even being fitted to the car, at which point the pit crew took very careful measurements to ensure the car was legal, so claiming ignorance when they were more than 5mm out does not ring true.

Then there was the issue of team mates. The one time Eddie Irvine dared to overtake the boss on the opening lap at Silverstone, Michael fell off the road and broke a leg. And how about that farce at Indianapolis with Barrichello? Michael's number two drivers were always under instructions to work for him, even though it often cost them time, and therefore potential results.

No, but what Michael was the best at was keeping his cool and talking through all the possible scenarios with Brawn while at the same time lapping on the pace, so the pair of them could maximise any situation. Of course they did get caught out once or twice (parking at Monaco after setting his fastest lap in qualifying?) but usually the double act got results.

His Mercedes comeback has been far from stellar, usually out-qualified, and out-raced by Rosberg and he ran out of excuses long ago. So if Michael's past results make him the best ever, how good does that make Rosberg? Now at last, after two years in mid-field Mercedes seem to have a front running car, and I would not be surprised to see Rosberg win again, or indeed Schuey back on top, but he will have to do it correctly as the Mercedes team under Norbert Haug in 2012 is not like the Ferrari of the past.

Anyway, it looks like a vintage year where the top five or six teams are so close we could see many winners.

Off to watch Bahrain quallies now..........

Chris M.

 

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petrolhead wrote:

Chris Martin wrote:

Look mate, do yourself a favour, if you have nothing to say, keep quiet. If you are only on here to try to prove how smart you are you are going the wrong way about it.

Chris M.

The irony...

LOL

Don't bother petrol, DUSIE, sorry Chris M. has no idea what you're on about! LOL again