Is Ford dropping a faux pas?

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Just clocked this on the What Hi-Fi? S&V forum.

http://www.whathifi.com/forum/off-topic-and-miscellaneous/ford-plan-to-drop-cd-players

Hope this isn't a catalyst for other makes to follow suit.

Your views, please.

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Not sure to be honest. Record players, 8 Tracks and Cassettes came and went as standard fitment (or options) in new cars without the world suffering too much. It's just progress I guess. What is interesting is that because so many units nowadays are unique to the cars they are fitted to, if you want a "classic" CD player in the future they won't be quite so interchangeable as older units are today and therefore you choice will be far more limited in finding one to fit your car.

Personally, if I had something that looked period and it had a radio and worked with an iPod, I would be satisfied.

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This could be a very thorny issue, especially for Ford. Once they realise that the main format is still CDs logic should tell them to revoke their policy, then, I for one, shall go...   \o/

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Just another step along the way to making all cars as disposible 'white goods'. They already have enough electronics that will not be serviceable in the near future, to ensure instant obsolescence.

I am having the original 'pin-stripe' Becker Mexico in my '76 Mercedes 450SLC restored and modified to add a discreet ipod socket which will be all I need for that, but the Model T 'Woodie' is presenting a bigger problem. Ideally, I want to get one of those Indian made repro old type gramaphones with the big trumpet, and fit the amplifier for the ipod inside that, then create a suitably period playlist of twenties ragtime tunes and the like. Should work well on the back seat and no worries about the needle skipping over the bumps!

Chris M.

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GreaseMonkey wrote:

Just another step along the way to making all cars as disposible 'white goods'. They already have enough electronics that will not be serviceable in the near future, to ensure instant obsolescence.

I am having the original 'pin-stripe' Becker Mexico in my '76 Mercedes 450SLC restored and modified to add a discreet ipod socket which will be all I need for that, but the Model T 'Woodie' is presenting a bigger problem. Ideally, I want to get one of those Indian made repro old type gramaphones with the big trumpet, and fit the amplifier for the ipod inside that, then create a suitably period playlist of twenties ragtime tunes and the like. Should work well on the back seat and no worries about the needle skipping over the bumps!

Chris M.

Not a good idea to have a gramaphone across the rear set if you're taking the family out, though.

Ona more serious note it's consumer manipulation: "Don't do as we do, do what we say." I think if people do buy a new Ford they should ask for no player (with appropriate discount) and then purchase a bespoke player. That would get up the facial cavity of the boys from Dagenham. 

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GreaseMonkey wrote:

Just another step along the way to making all cars as disposible 'white goods'. They already have enough electronics that will not be serviceable in the near future, to ensure instant obsolescence.

I am having the original 'pin-stripe' Becker Mexico in my '76 Mercedes 450SLC restored and modified to add a discreet ipod socket which will be all I need for that, but the Model T 'Woodie' is presenting a bigger problem. Ideally, I want to get one of those Indian made repro old type gramaphones with the big trumpet, and fit the amplifier for the ipod inside that, then create a suitably period playlist of twenties ragtime tunes and the like. Should work well on the back seat and no worries about the needle skipping over the bumps!

Chris M.

Not a good idea to have a gramaphone across the rear set if you're taking the family out, though.

Ona more serious note it's consumer manipulation: "Don't do as we do, do what we say." I think if people do buy a new Ford they should ask for no player (with appropriate discount) and then purchase a bespoke player. That would get up the facial cavity of the boys from Dagenham. 

Not the family, just me and the Mrs and Django the Golden Retriever.

And being extra pedantic, I am not sure there are any 'boys from Dagenham' any more, isn't Ford in Europe now run from Cologne? When I was at Jaguar Racing ten years ago there was a lot of political friction between Detroit and Cologne, remember the Niki Lauda and Bobby Rahal revolving door?

Still, I get your point, and that kind of customer service will only hurt in the long run, other manufacturers may benefit.

Chris M.

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Yes you are right re F1 then Jackie and Paul Stewart got a foot in the door...A guy I know had/has an Edsel Corsair, with a record player innit(optional in 1958)my friend Peter had a factory 8 track in his 1972 Ford Torino.

I have to say the Blaukpunk radio cassete, I had in a new Nissan Bluebird circa 1988, didnt live up to the hype, possibly due to the back speaker reverberance, and rattle, so I just used the door ones but the tape one and CD Radio in both my last Mondeos were/are first rate/ I also like the way you can set it to give traffic reports. That was something I didnt realise until I hired a VW van to collect an Aprila Custom motorbike from Yarmouth in, and kept getting interupted. I was lucky to get past a broken down vehicle near Great Blakenham,and it was bank holiday Friday- and a car caught fire into Galston, so came back via Bungay Diss and Mendlesham, where of course there is the huge Anglia TV tower, we have a couple en route to Clacton but the Sudbury one went off two evening s back, then last night I had to retune all the freeview programs back again, viva progress. .

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GBt wrote:

Yes you are right re F1 then Jackie and Paul Stewart got a foot in the door...

Well not quite, they set the team up IN '96 and then Ford bought it at the end of '99, but that's another story for another thread one day.

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I stand corrected, yes I was thinking of BAR, and being an old Forum member (they demanded a hitchikers guide bable fish type translater for my stuff)on the Johnny Herbert Forum, when spending a weekend around Towcester/overnight stay in Buckingham, after watching the Saturday proceedings, attending Audi's hospitality centre by invite theSunday@Silvers- for the weekend when Bobbie Rayhalls 917 that only made a brief apearance at that years first Classic Le Mans was one of the very many cars of that group c period I missed out of seeing, in period, due to being on ships.and they finally found me not to be too Troll like, as of the b Piaggio X9 uptight lot around that date, banished me and my innocent Piaggio based Aprilia into hyperspace's ether, well summararily they said on re entering their precious anti AOL porthole via a more acceptible router)

To ensure this doesnt go too off track I do have a pucker radio communications certificate, and use aon recue boats and yachts/also  am a fan of Fords these days too and enjoyed my radio cassette, as did a Jaz crazy(yuk)disabled x American car owner, I picked up by arrangemant in Walthamstow and safely returned from La Sarthe via a hotel in Mayenne for a 4 day pilgrimage their.Last time I went it was in the Walikshaw Jag times.

We were gonna go to Sturgess for the centenary well our minds were, perhaps the bodies werent totally in accord, but my own diisability over 50s new deal advisor may have blanched at that prospect anyhows. 

 I'll start a proper motorsport theme elsewhere, so as not to anoy further.

 

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Inevitable I suppose, but the announcemend of intention might just be a feeler for the market.

Interesting alternatives though.  The ipod connector I get (although I don't have an ipod and probably at least 50% of Ford's new-car customer base won't have an ipod either) but the comment about a hard disk version and streaming music via the internet in the currently trendy "cloud" sounds a new one. And of course that might be a "kching" moment to extract a suscription ?

Strangely enough I'm a big fan of  MP3 players although none are iPods, and I modified one radio to allow player input. How many times do I use it ? once to test it, after that I just couldn't be bothered with the faff & clutter. A CD with 200+ "period" MP3's on and shuffle facility is far easier.

 

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Last year i bought a Merlin Rocket boat and needed to collect it from a Thames sailing club down near Teddinton, back to Suffolk,so as the dates got delayed, and I have a Mother in her ninetees to consider, i didnt want to rely on a sit in service so bought an adapter off EBay, to connect to my Bluetooth Nokia-for hands free, but that Hong fuey device kept blowing the light fueses every time I pulled it out of the lighter socket/ and foglight relay.

So ensuring she had her careline pendant thinghy on, I set off with my MP4 player which had to be operated with a remote, so hardly hands free for track changing, and I never managed to get more than brief bursts of sound out of another adapter reliant device, a sony walkman that I inneptly plugged ito an Apple I Mac and it said do you want to format, so yes I did but it didnt with the result it just keeps showing wrong format and refuses to release any of the hundreds of tracks formerly stored upon it .So relied on good old CDs on that and other occassions ever since

I have unearthed numerous old CDs in my quest to find items I thought might be of interest to forum attendees, wrongly sometimes it apears, however I am really quite satisfied with the player Ford fitted to my 1999 Mondeo.